On this episode Octavius talks with family man, business man and Quiet storm James Burks. They sit down to discuss the joy of being a Black man, his journey through manhood and now fatherhood, and what it takes to be aware of family history and Black history. The two unpack building relationships with their fathers, how toxic and hypermasculinity is not working for us Black men, how we should build on the momentum of being seen as human and how important it is for us to be emotionally aware and available for one another.